Jared Crozier: Will Alfredsson get the Call to the Hall?

If Smyth and Kovalev get in Alfredsson should be a shoe in. He was a great player and seemed like a nice guy off the ice, only thing that may work against him is no cups and a lack of major awards (Heart, Conn Smyth).

Ryan Smyth in the HOF would be ridiculous. Claude Lemieux has a better argument than Smyth.

Will be nice to see his Red Wings jersey in the HHOF.

If you have no hardware to your name than you need out of this world numbers. He has neither. Case closed. Sweden HoF if they have such a thing, yes. senators HoF yes. NHL HoF no. He was a great guy and great player but you can't water down the standards of a HoF

Not sure if he gets in this year but i think he gets in eventually

If you have no hardware to your name than you need out of this world numbers. He has neither. Case closed. Sweden HoF if they have such a thing, yes. senators HoF yes. NHL HoF no. He was a great guy and great player but you can't dumb down the standards of a HoF
- Leniwm1

@ the standards

If you have no hardware to your name than you need out of this world numbers. He has neither. Case closed. Sweden HoF if they have such a thing, yes. senators HoF yes. NHL HoF no. He was a great guy and great player but you can't water down the standards of a HoF
- Leniwm1

FYI it is the HOCKEY Hall of Fame... not the NHL HOF.
International competition comes into play. He has some big Swedish Team accomplishments.

No...

If you have no hardware to your name than you need out of this world numbers. He has neither. Case closed. Sweden HoF if they have such a thing, yes. senators HoF yes. NHL HoF no. He was a great guy and great player but you can't water down the standards of a HoF
- Leniwm1

He has lots of hardware.....2 nhl awards, including the Calder, and an Olympic gold. He's also about 5 pts outside of the top 50 all time for points, I'd say those are outstanding numbers.

No. He had a really nice career and put up good stats but not good enough for the HOF. He is definitely behind Roenick & Kariya, probably Mogilny too.

He has lots of hardware.....2 nhl awards, including the Calder, and an Olympic gold. He's also about 5 pts outside of the top 50 all time for points, I'd say those are outstanding numbers.
- sensarmy_11

2 NHL awards? Huh?

Tell me you're not counting one of those stupid leadership awards.


The standards of the HOF, aren't what they should be. At it's current standards, he is a borderline inductee, that'll probably make it one weak year.

I think this year I'd use an induction spot on Rod Brindamour before Alfredsson.

No. He had a really nice career and put up good stats but not good enough for the HOF. He is definitely behind Roenick & Kariya, probably Mogilny too.
- MacPatty

Please explain how kariya is HOF worthy and alfredsson is not.

2 NHL awards? Huh?

Tell me you're not counting one of those stupid leadership awards.


The standards of the HOF, aren't what they should be. At it's current standards, he is a borderline inductee, that'll probably make it one weak year.

I think this year I'd use an induction spot on Rod Brindamour before Alfredsson.
- prock

He's won more than sundin......both team and personal

He's won more than sundin......both team and personal
- sensarmy_11

there is the turds fans inferiority complex. Had to bring up Sundin, didn't you.

Sundin >>> Alfredsson. Only deluded turds fans think otherwise. Swedish fans will tell you that for sure.

Sundin cracked the top 30 in career scoring. Only one player has more points than him, and is not inducted. That's Recchi. Alfredsson didn't even crack the top 50. And there are 7 or 8 players with more career points than him, not inducted.

But I think the standards should be higher, and Sundin should be borderline. maybe even out. Alfredsson IMO is an easy out. 20 years from now, when you talk of the league greats, Sundin will be an afterthought, and Alfredsson won't even be remembered outside ottawa.

But you know, there is definitely worse that is already in. Dino Cicerelli is in, isn't he? What a joke.

Please explain how kariya is HOF worthy and alfredsson is not.
- sensarmy_11

They are similar, but Kariya was a PPG player who's production and career was cut short by concussions. He had two 100 point seasons during the dead puck era. I think Alfie gets in because, where he's borderline, he was a nice guy and that will play with the writers who are on the fence.

Will be nice to see his Red Wings jersey in the HHOF.
- mlindsay

First ballot, easily.

From 94-2013 he was fourth in total points in the league.

Here are the top 10 over that time

1. Jagr
2. Selanne
3. Thornton
4. Alfredsson
5. Iginla
6. Sakic
7. Recchi
8. Sundin
9. Karyia
10. Lidstrom

The only person in that group who may not get in is Recchi.

You can call this cherry picking all you like but I bet 95% of players who are in the top 5 in scoring over their best 20 years are in the hall.

Then you have his other awards, including the fact that he was the best player (and leading scorer) on the Swedish team that won Olympic gold. He was also a captain and led the league in playoff goals and points one season while taking his team on his back to the finals.

Alfie is a lock. Based on the precedent they have set, if he is not on the first ballot, it's a travesty.

The standards of the HOF, aren't what they should be.

But you know, there is definitely worse that is already in.

I cant believe I'm saying this, but I agree with Prock

The hall should be for the select few, and in many cases I don't agree that dozens should have been selected......

that said, based on the names that have been inducted, Alfie should make it in.

PRAISE ALFIE

Being the first European-born and trained captain to lead an NHL team to the Stanley Cup Final and scoring the 1st shootout goal in NHL history may have some value?

Tough to say. He was one of the best two-way wingers in the best league in the world for a decade. He didn't win a Cup or even score 500 goals. He was, however, the face of a franchise for most of the 17 years he skated for them.

IMO he's a HOFer.

Being the first European-born and trained captain to lead an NHL team to the Stanley Cup Final and scoring the 1st shootout goal in NHL history may have some value?
- Bobbolicious

No... neither of those mean anything really.

I think he will get in, but not necessarily this year.

The comparisons between him and Sundin are ridiculous. First, Sundin was a centre, a position which statistically gets more points, on average, than any other position, plus he played in the NHL for way longer. They were both first line players on the best Swedish team that ever played.

He deserves it for his career accomplishments (1,000+ points, 1,000+ games, 400+ goals) and as mentioned above he is 4th among his compatriots for most points during his era of play. He was the leader of the most feared line in hockey from 2004 to 2007. He mentored players who are surefire locks to be HoF candidates (Hossa, Chara, maybe Spezza and Karlsson) and all of them are likely to say that yes, he deserves to be there. Even Mats Sundin would say that, and they have a grudge that continues to 'stick' around after all these years.

Either way, he is already in the hall of fame as a result of being the first player to ever score a shootout goal in the history of the NHL, and will eventually have his name on the cup as an executive here when the Sens do eventually win one.

I think it will take 2-3 years before it happens but he will get in. The key question is whether it will be him or Hossa who is the first modern era Senator inducted. My money's on Hossa, but he is very deserving. As the league gets larger, the number of cups won by a player becomes less relevant since the probability decreases each year a new team is added. Will McDavid get in if he never wins a cup? Would Ray Bourque have if he hadn't won in his final season? Will Chris Kunitz get in because he won 3 cups riding the coat tails of Crosby, Malkin and Letang? Not likely.

I say just relax and enjoy the selection ballots. He will get there eventually, it's not a question of if but when, I just hope I'm still alive when it happens as another way of saying thanks to him for so many awesome childhood, adolescence and early adulthood memories.

They are similar, but Kariya was a PPG player who's production and career was cut short by concussions. He had two 100 point seasons during the dead puck era. I think Alfie gets in because, where he's borderline, he was a nice guy and that will play with the writers who are on the fence.
- Only_A_Ladd

Writers don't vote.

He deserves it for his career accomplishments (1,000+ points, 1,000+ games, 400+ goals) and as mentioned above he is 4th among his compatriots for most points during his era of play. He was the leader of the most feared line in hockey from 2004 to 2007. He mentored players who are surefire locks to be HoF candidates (Hossa, Chara, maybe Spezza and Karlsson) and all of them are likely to say that yes, he deserves to be there. Even Mats Sundin would say that, and they have a grudge that continues to 'stick' around after all these years.
- ahjnkn

Spezza is so far from being a HOFer. He was a good player who had some really good season, but come on.

Alfredsson and Sudin don't have a grudge now and never did. The stick thing was an overblown media invention, he was just teasing a good friend. As an Ottawa fan you should already know this.